First agent of the Guardia Civil declaring before the Supreme Court defines 20-S as "siege"

First agent of the Guardia Civil declaring before the Supreme Court defines 20-S as "siege"
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First agent of the Guardia Civil declaring before the Supreme Court defines 20-S as "siege"

Josep Maria Camps Updated
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Catalan independence trial
First agent of the Guardia Civil declaring before the Supreme Court defines 20-S as "siege"

The court that judges the pro-independence leaders accused of rebellion, this Tuesday in the Supreme Court

This Tuesday, and following the testimony of Felipe Martínez Rico, number two of Cristóbal Montoro in the Ministry of Finance, Civil Guard agents who participated in the searches of 20 September began their declarations.

The first to be questioned as a witness was one of the agents who arrested Lluís Salvadó, then Secretary of the Treasury of the Generalitat. He registered his home and his office.

The agent, identified with agent ID number H11346M, did not want his name or his image to be made public. Jordi Cuixart's defence counsel, Marina Roig, protested arguing that this could affect the right of defense:

"If this is going to be the tone set in relation to the agents that will declare, this defence counsel understands that it could directly affect the presumption of innocence, as the image of agents is tried to be hidden."


Supreme Court Prosecutor Javier Zaragoza asked him over details of his participation in the registration and detention of the former Secretary of the Treasury. Agent H11346M explained that when they arrived at Salvadó's house, he took his time opening the door to them because he was talking on the phone:

"Since we had Mr. Salvadó's telephone tapped, we later checked that call, in which one of the secretaries, who later identified herself as Elisabeth Terrades, if my memory serves me correctly, said to Mr. Salvadó:" The Guardia Civil has come " Then he says: "Enter the office, take the stack of papers on top of the meeting table and throw them into the yard."


According to the witness, the secretary already had the Guardia Civil agents in her office, so she told him she didn't have time to do it.
 

Supreme Court prosecutor Javier Zaragoza, next to Consuelo Madrigal, on Tuesday during the interrogation of agent H11346M


"War scenario" and "guerrilla scenario"

Agent H11346M said that the registration in the office began at 11.30 PM. He also stated that agents made copies of Salvadó's corporate emails and found "a lot of material":

"Among the documents that were found, we were struck by one that was inside a blue folder on the desk in his office, consisting of two manuscript sheets with the titles "scenario of war" and "guerrilla scenario". Its content included legal and financial measures that the Spanish State could take against the independence challenge, and the means of subsistence that Catalonia could take against them."

"We found some torn pages inside the photocopier room, in a wastebasket. We proceeded to rebuild them. There were 8 pages in which one could read: "Scenarios after the referendum" with a division into 4 phases; It was on the electoral night after the referendum, the recount and formal proclamation accompanied by symbolic acts, legal transitoriness and a transitional constituent process."

Agent H11346M explained that when they were finishing the searches, Oriol Junqueras arrived accompanied by about 10 people, and that, despite being told he could not get close to Salvadó, the then Deputy Prime Minister hugged him and kept with him "a brief conversation in Catalan, seems to be".


He had no problem leaving

As for what was happening outside, agent H11346M said that the crowd "kept a distance" and that he was shouting a lot, but he admitted that they had no problems when they left:

Agent H11346M: "They shouted: "we will vote","independence"," occupation forces go away","fascists","coup plotters","terrorists"."

Javier Zaragoza: "When leaving after the searches at the Ministry of Finance, did the people gathered there block your way out, did some anomalous situation occur?"

Agent H11346M: "I don't think so."

Javier Zaragoza: "Did you not feel that your work had been hampered?"

Agent H11346M: "No."

 

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Jordi Pina, defence counsel of Jordi Sànchez, during the interrogation to agent of the Guardia Civil number H11346M


The images of the "siege" of 20 September

Agent H11346M explained to the State Prosecutor's Office that one of the tasks he undertook during the investigation was a "photographic report" on the concentration before the Department of Economy on 20 September, based on the broadcast offered by TV3, Antena3 and Tele5.

Jordi Sànchez's defence counsel, Jordi Pina, asked him over the criteria followed to make this report, which consisted of screenshots of specific moments of the broadcasts.

The agent implied by his answer that he was the one who chose these three television channels, stating that, among the tens of hours of recordings, he selected the "most significant" images:

Agent H11346M: "Screenshots of the most significant images were taken. All videos were not been incorporated due to their magnitude, but they are available by order of the court ".

Jordi Pina: "In reference to this sentence you just stated, "The most significant images"…  when you say so, what do you exactly mean? Most significant, in which sense?"

Agent H11346M: "The most significant of what took place on September 20 at the headquarters of the Ministry, at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Finance."


The defence counsel insisted on asking wether he did not see people singing, concerts and a festive atmosphere, to which the agent only replied that it was a "siege":

Jordi Pina: "By which personal criteria did you not consider these other images to be of interest?"

Agent H11346M: "The most significant images were not those of a concert. A siege was taking place on the headquarters of the Ministry."

 


The agent does not confirm if he was under Baena's orders

To questions of Andreu Van den Eynde, defence counsel of Oriol Junqueras and Raül Romeva, the agent was reluctant to acknowledge that he worked under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Baena, thus making necessary the intervention of the president of the court, Manuel Marchena:

Van den Eynde: "You worked under the orders of the lieutenant colonel, I think his name is Mr. Baena, is that so"?

Agent H11346M: "The investigator of the proceedings is the lieutenant colonel chief of the judicial police of the seventh zone in Catalonia."

Van den Eynde: "Is his name Baena?"

Agent H11346M: "I have told you that he is the lieutenant colonel of the judicial unit of the seventh zone in Catalonia. You should have enough with what I already said."

Manuel Marchena: "Do you know the name, and wether it matches with the last name you just identified?"

Agent H11346M: "I just don't know if I have to answer. I identify myself with my agent ID number, and so does my partner."

Manuel Marchena: "But Mr. Baena, who is someone who has already been in this trial, did not request any mechanism to exclude his identification to be public, nor is his privacy or protection being affected, therefore... "

Van den Eynde: "It is just OK if we refer to him by his agent ID number."

 

 

 

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